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Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:03:00 -
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rahhhhhhhhhhhhh wrote:We're a pretty small crew of close-knit friends who know each other mostly out of game first, and play EVE together. We also do other things together.
While we use this data like everyone else who's chimed in to find active systems so we can find some PVP content which is already insanely hard to find, we also use it for another purpose.
We have a little doodad widget thingie on our website that has full details of what's going on in our home system using this API endpoint. Sometimes, we do other games besides EVE because we have two EOL holes that aren't worth trying to roll and risk getting stuck (EOL but unknown time of spawning), so we'll go play something else for a few hours. If the widget detects any activity, we login to EVE straight away. Since we have a highsec static, this is actually a very common occurrence.
The net result of this change will simply be that we will login to EVE less. vOv
Maybe you're doing wormholes wrong then. If I want to monitor hole activity I'll just put some cloakys on our holes and tab in when I hear some activation.
Zero delay, way better ;) |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:45:00 -
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Honestly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I find people carebearing with an open static surprisingly often. The only reason I don't get to kill them most of the time is that I don't have a myriad of other pilots backing me up.
The people complaining about this change happen to be those that farm their home sites in (relative) safety ~because numbers~ Funnily enough, at the same time they would complain about CCP turning wh-space into Nullsec where blobs make you king, intel is for free and the individual effort is mostly irrelevant in the larger picture. Still following me? There is clearly some weird sense of entitlement going on here.
To put things in perspective: it's really no one's fault that wh-space has succumbed to a place where the number of ganks is the one true metric for "content" and the ease of gankage the only issue that will get its inhabitants really agitated. Sadly, this is what mechanics promote. At the core of the problem lies the difficulty that said people have a hard time finding each other for real fights, not that farmers are to hard to find and gank.
Seriously. You afraid of RMT? How many people are going to risk multiple high-sp-chars to get banned while there is other ridiculously easy and risk-free money-making opportunities like fw/botting.
You don't want Nullsec-people farming capital escalations? Put a prober in their systems. Whenever they collapse holes and start farming launch some probes and scan the static. They will either notice them probes and stop (mission accomplished) or they will continue and give you the opportunity to bring in a sufficiently large gang to gank them. Alternatively, go and evict them. You do that often enough, I doubt that they'll come back.
As long as signatures are actually delayed, killing the api will be perfectly fine and balance things out. |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:03:00 -
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John Caldr wrote:Ab'del Abu wrote:Honestly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Not having enough WH PVP experience and playing in prime time, you see just a tip of the iceberg.
I can see how being in a less active timezone would suck, however, looking at your killboard it would seem that you gank stuff around the clock. So how do you do it? Alarmclock or something? |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:10:00 -
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Two step wrote:
As for a solution, I would like to see the difficulty of C5/C6 capital escalations increased. It should take 8-10 actual people paying actual attention to make 600-800 mil off a set of capital escalations. The simplest way to do this would probably be to nerf dreads against sleepers, but there are other solutions that would work. If this was done, farming would require a larger time and manpower commitment, which would require a larger vulnerable presence in the hole.
You do this and you loose A LOT of meat to incursions, fw and stuff. Clearly, there are better ways: e.g., buff income for lower-class wormholes, remove nanoribbons drops from sleepless guardians (removing nanoribbons from the loot table should be ridiculously easy to do for ccp), maybe even tune down site spawn or remove respawns of escalation rats (I guess large corporations like yours won't like that either ;)) |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:24:00 -
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John Caldr wrote:Ab'del Abu wrote:
I can see how being in a less active timezone would suck, however, looking at your killboard it would seem that you gank stuff around the clock. So how do you do it? Alarmclock or something?
Yes, we have scouts and alarm clock/sms/phone our pilots when action starts.
Well I guess that's some admirable level of dedication  |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:31:00 -
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G0hme wrote:Greyscale did state that capital escalation are horrible and not anywhere near where he wanted them to be. They were never intended to be run the way Wspace community runs them, so hopefully we will see that change eventually.
Could you please elaborate on that? Or is this all that he said (obv I wasn't there ;)) |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:16:00 -
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corbexx wrote:copied from the wormhole section. Rek Seven wrote:It makes scene to remove the API kills but at them same time, this doesn't improve gameplay.
The next problem is the follow on effect, more farming will properly lead to nano's dropping in price. This will then hit the smaller groups in c1 to c4 space hard making there income less (which to me is already to low anyway).
Has there ever been a serious consideration of removing nanoribbons from sleepless guardian salvage? Imho it would take care of several issues at once at literally zero cost (afaik CCP can change drops/salvage very easily without touching any "horrific legacy code".)
- capital escalations get a ~20% income nerf, which would go a long way in balancing risk/reward, especially after the proposed changes (api/sigs)
- C1-C4 income would be buffed significantly
- t3s get back to a reasonable price (I think we can all agree that 300m for a t1/t2 fitted t3 vessel is way cheap)
Do you have any opinion on this? Maybe you could take it up with CCP .. |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:55:00 -
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http://eve-markets.net/detail?typeid=30747#history
Looking at above stats volume actually seems to be less than two years ago |
Ab'del Abu
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:23:00 -
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tl;dr
- some hypocrites think they are entitled to running sites safely in their nothing-ever-happens-timezones/with 10 dreads on standby.
- at the same time, those people think they should be able to gank smaller groups every other day with intel that they have to put 0 work into. They like to call themselves "true wormholers"
- there is also a very homogenous group of people, also referred to as "carebears", that endangers all of EVE. True wormholers are on a heroic, god-given mission to save new eden. It has NOTHING to do with collecting 20b killmails for free. In fact, true wormholers never boast with their killboards ...
True wormholers rejoice, for I have good news! All your bitching about how farming is too easy and safe will get nerf-bat swinging at capital escalations soon enough.
Scratch that. I have come to believe that this is actually CCP's first step to making away with C5/C6 money-making as we know it. Soon everyone will be running escalations in safety (not just true wormholers) and CCP will have a nice little pretext for f'ing things up. After all that is what true wormholers wanted all along, right?
I for one can't wait to see you hypocrites crying us rivers because you'll have to farm your statics in order to fuel the 40ish towers in your home systems. Looking forward to collections your tears. |
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